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Giant Schnauzers
In Herding Situations
By Susan Finlay
Ailsby
Reprinted from
Giant Steps © May/June 1996
General
Description:
The Giant Schnauzer is an enthusiastic
worker, bright and alert. The Giant is typically excited to be
working and will not mind working with or for anyone. Giant
Schnauzers have strong personalities and will not respond to
direction unless they perceive the handler as having a stronger one.
At the same time, they are not “tough” dogs to train, and demand
fairness, gentleness and reliability in the handler. Given what they
need, they are extremely easy to train, fast learners and
intelligent, responsive partners. They respond to browbeating by
turning off the subject entirely. A Giant should be both willing to
and capable of tenaciously defending its owner or flock when
threatened.
Description Of
Herding Style:
The Giant Schnauzer can be trained for
various types of herding work. They are versatile dogs and can be
used on most types of stock if the handler wishes. While they are
strong enough for cattle and can be gentle and reliable on sheep and
lambs, most Giant Schnauzers view ducks and geese as lunch. They
should therefore be trained and/or used on birds with great care.
The Giant's natural tendency is to
gather and bring the stock to the handler, although the “bring to
the handler” part is considerably weaker in untrained or partially
trained dogs than the “gather the flock” part.

In Europe, the Giant Schnauzer was used
for all farm work with all stock, so it was not necessary for the
farmer to have four dogs to do four different jobs. Giants were used
in Germany to do the daily chores, herd the sheep and cattle, drive
them to market, then guard the resulting purse on the way home.
The Giant Schnauzer usually works quite
close to sheep. Giants tend to work standing up, and most resist the
Down command as it diminishes their power in front of the stock.
Most trainers use the Down only to discipline the dog who fails to
Stop or to emphasize the Stop command. Even though it is very intent
on the stock, the Giant Schnauzer usually shows only moderate eye.
It is generally a quiet worker although most individuals use a force
bark with stubborn or uncooperative stock. Continuous or excessive
barking is a useful sign of dominance over the handler, or, more
often, insecurity or frustration with the training situation.
The Giant Schnauzer is an authoritative
herder. He will generally use body contact before grip (noninjurious
closing of teeth on stock) to establish respect, turn and control
stock. There is a tendency for excited/untrained or partially
trained dogs to want to pull wool along the flank, though this is
easily controlled with voice discipline. The tendency is not nearly
so marked, nor the dogs so rough, as in many other breeds.

Expectations In
The Herding Instinct Test Situation:
It is NOT recommended that the dog be
introduced to stock on a leash; being held back heightens the dog's
desire to grab. (This technique is used to encourage protection dogs
to bite and not appropriate for a herding instinct test situation).
When initially exposed to sheep, the
average Giant Schnauzer will almost immediately show interest and
move the sheep. It is usually necessary for the dog to sniff the
sheep before they begin to work for the first time, and the first
approach is usually slow. If the first approach is fast, the dog
will probably be barking, but will stop as soon as he starts
working. A few individuals will take multiple exposures to overcome
excited barking, even while working. The dog will worry about down
sheep and sheep which are not in the flock, and worry if an outside
dog is working his stock. It is normal for a Giant to mother a down
sheep, licking its ears and face and otherwise fussing over it.
Recalcitrant stock are corrected and disciplined but not injured.
Giants tend to make a religion of dominance. Most will quickly come
to view the sheep as members of their pack, to be gathered
controlled and disciplined when necessary.
The dog should circle, attempting to
gather the sheep to the owner. It may show wear either naturally or
with encouragement. Although many styles are possible, the wear is
typically run welt down the sides of the flock rather than in small
arcs behind. Quite often it is intent on circling the sheep for some
time before being molded into a wear. The dog will likely want to
work very close to the sheep and may grip or pull wool if allowed.
In the excitement of the new experience, splitting of the flock may
occur, but the dog should promptly attempt to regroup. Most Giant
Schnauzers are headers, and new dogs frequently run into difficulty
returning an individual to the flock because every time the animal
tries to move toward the flock the dog heads it. It is extremely
common, therefore, that untrained dogs left to their own devices
wind up with a flock or an individual stuck in the middle of a
pasture or jammed up against a fence, totally under control but
unable to move. It is for this reason that most Giant Schnauzers are
perfectly capable of “gathering” stock but are not very good at
“fetching” stock until they have some directional control from the
handier. The test should therefore differentiate between dogs which
have caught and cornered and animal through an excessive desire to
head, and dogs which are running down are attempting to isolate an
animal for prey.
Giant Schnauzers are large dogs and very
slow to mature. They have been used extensively as guard, Schutzhund
and police dogs, but it is recognized that while the adult is
usually an extremely powerful animal, the youngsters are not. An
18‑month‑old Giant Schnauzer, for instance, may appear to be an
adult but may not be mentally mature enough to stand up to an
aggressive animal. These young dogs would benefit from being left to
grow up. Adult dogs, however, will usually turn on to the sheep
fairly quickly, or not at all. Few adult Giant Schnauzers will
benefit, as many Shetland Sheepdogs will, from repeated exposures if
they are not interested initially.
Recommendations
To The Tester:
When testing the Giant Schnauzer,
remember the farmers that developed the breed desired a large,
assertive dog with a great deal of intelligence and versatility.
Regarding everything the Giant Schnauzer does‑water and dryland
retrieving, hard work, pulling a sled, herding or any other
endeavor‑ it is impossible to build the “correct” working style for
every occasion into a versatile breed. Desire, intelligence,
responsiveness and a willingness to try are more important than any
particular working style. A soft dog will often gain strength with
experience, and the excited or over‑eager dog will gain control.
With training, the dedicated “header” will quickly learn to drive as
well. Often Giant Schnauzers require active intervention to prevent
wool pulling and overworking the sheep due to inexperience and
enthusiasm. This intervention will vary with individuals from body
positioning, verbal correction, to the use of a light pose as needed
to block and deflect the dog. The very enthusiastic Giant Schnauzer
may vocally challenge the right of the pole to give him orders, but
very few are actually aggressive. If the owner is over‑ or under‑
controlling the dog, the experienced tester can usually work the dog
very well alone.
On occasion a Giant
may appear at first to be driving (naturally): this is usually due
to one of the following:
- The dog is uncertain to
work against the pressure of the sheep.
- The dog is chasing or
playing with the sheep rather than herding.
- The dog is hesitant to
leave its handler and work on the other side of the flock.
- The tester/handler is
standing still rather than giving ground to a fetch/gather or
defining a boundary over which the dog may not cross.
- The dog is trying to take
the sheep from the tester to the owner (this happens occasionally
when tester and owner separate.)
- The dog is attempting to
contain the stock and is working mostly on the “high pressure”
side of the sheep in order to keep them contained. If the pressure
side happens to be behind the handler the dog may seem out of
position (or to be attempting to drive). One must note the effect
on the stock to determine if the dog is indeed correct in its
choice of sides and is keeping the stock to the owner handler.
Stock tends to react to the presence of
a very intense, untrained Giant Schnauzer quickly and a small area
may cause the stock to panic (either in frantic flight or, lacking
room to run, stubbornly stand ground). Either of these reactions may
cause a dog to bite or pull wool. If the handler does not give
ground to the fetching Giant, the dog may become frustrated and bark
and/or nip; or, the sheep may stop and become aggressive (either
frightening the milder dog or encouraging a grip). Even in these
extreme situations, however, most Giant Schnauzers will grip and
discipline rather that bite.
A Giant Thanks to
Susan Finlay Ailsby of Dragonfly Farm for Submitting this Article.
Pictures provided by Joanne Thompson
and Laura Feldt |